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To Glee or Not to Glee?

Does network TV match our family? That is a very personal question.

 

I don’t consider myself a conservative gal. But last week’s "Glee" caused a firestorm in our house.

I’m relatively new to the hit teen musical show. A couple of months ago I got a kick out of Gwyneth Paltrow’s guest cameo. And I do adore native Chicagoan Jane Lynch, the show’s straight-talking gym coach. After watching her Grinch-like heart melt while she sung with special needs kids last week, "Glee" had the markings of our favorite new family show.

It’s rare to find a program that each of us likes. Our "Seinfeld" reruns have been played so many times we can name an episode in three syllables. 

The musical part of "Glee" offers my kids and I the chance to bond over our favorite songs. I can get giddy over pop music that echoes throughout our house. The dishes get done a little faster with a dash of Bieber fever.  

And I am a sucker for teen drama. I’m sure Oprah would diagnose me with some sort of latent, incomplete experience from my own teenage wasteland. Whatever the reason, the rush of excitement was palpable.  

It was 8 p.m. on a dreary Tuesday night. Snuggling up on the sofa with my kids, I was excited to get my "Glee" on.

But the first few scenes were shocking. To my horror, we watched kids drink booze out of reusable coffee containers in the school halls during the passing period to class. Shortly after that, the Glee Club members played spin the bottle in the basement of an empty home. The party was replete with a strip routine as a favored character gave a lap dance in her Victoria’s Secret bra and panties.

I felt sick to my stomach. Although I felt sure Fox was building up to a moral line to be delivered that does not condone illegal drinking, they sure took their time with the delivery.   

Wriggling in agony next to my son, I just couldn’t stand it anymore. Stripping and underage drinking on a weeknight at 8 p.m.? I resented network television executives for forcing me to get off the sofa and take a stand. 

I knew I was going to have to face the pop music and turn off the TV. But did I have the energy to face the certain fallout with my kids?

A difficult journey begins with a single step. Mine started by getting off the sofa to collect my thoughts by taking some laundry upstairs.

As I folded clothes, I remembered a line printed on a poster in my fifth-grade daughter’s school. It always comes to me when I need to find courage.

“Courage is standing up in a room full of people who are doing something wrong and doing what is right.”  

I knew I wasn’t smarter than a fifth-grader. But could I be as courageous? And what if the room full of people were your own children?

I tried to figure out what was holding me back. Putting away some folded towels I began to execute my intervention into my kids’ treasured show.

I was all over the map. On the one hand, they already watched part of the show. Missing the triumphant moral ending would leave them with only the negative "before" picture.

I reasoned with myself that other parents happily let their kids watch whatever they want. I knew how we raised them and they wouldn’t be sipping wine coolers from their Starbuck’s cups anytime soon.

I further reasoned that "Glee" had some very heartwarming episodes. I had seen many examples of choices based on good character, honesty and acceptance. 

But as I paired the socks in the basket I knew that sometimes things fit and sometimes they don’t.   

That night, for me, I just could not get "Glee" to match our family.

“You can do this,” I said to myself as I slammed a drawer shut. 

For goodness sake! I have lived in two foreign countries! I have chased a mugger down the streets of the great city of Chicago! (He didn't get my purse either.) Where was my courage to stand up and turn off the TV? What kind of mother is afraid of her own children?

I threw down my basket of clothes and headed to the living room.

I took a breath and faced my fears, staring straight ahead. You would have thought I was storming the beaches at Normandy.

I thought of the ad from my own teenage wasteland: “Just do it.” 

I marched into our living room and turned off the TV. 

“Enough is enough!” I said, prepared for the revolt.

A cyclone of protests threatened to blow me right through the living room window. I braced myself against the popular backlash. 

But kids know when there is no wiggle room. They can smell indecision like a dog sniffing for table scraps. Under these circumstances, it’s best to fake it 'til you make it.

I stood firm, and as expected, their words blew enough air to put the lift right back in my lifeless hair.

What’s the worst that can happen? I thought to myself. They may be angry. They may even hate me. But they’ll be back as soon as they’re hungry for dinner. 

As the fury subsided I put away the last few folded towels.  

I knew my kids wouldn’t fit in at school the next day when their friends were talking about the ending of their favorite TV show. I also knew they would survive.

Besides, everybody needs a little teen angst.  

They’ll need some stories to swap about their insufferable parents as they stand around waiting for a ride home from school. They’ll need something to tell their kids about their own brand of teenage drama.

They might even remember the story with nostalgia in their eyes.  

And maybe just a little Glee.


pesco

1:12 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

This is just some horrible writing. Whatever parenting lesson you were trying to describe was lost in a flurry of unnecessary details.

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Name

12:50 pm on Saturday, April 16, 2011

thank you!! exactly the point I was trying to get across.

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Charlotte Eriksen

1:16 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Thanks for the comment, @Name. The great thing about expressing an opinion is that no one person is going to share the same opinion for the same reason. As a teen, your position is much different from that of a mom's (not that I am one). But I'd imagine a mom does feel a responsibility to use these situations to make sure her kids understand certain values and boundaries. On the other hand, when my mom got in the way of TV time (which, by the way, I earned and cherished every second of it—so interruptions were NOT acceptable), I was not happy.

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Julia C

2:11 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

While I understand your shock at the show's content, I think it was incredibly stupid to cut the show off before the moral ending. The message you sent to your children was, "These cool Glee kids are drinking and having fun and I don't want you to see it." This does more damage than the show could have. If you had watched until the end, you would have seen the horrific (and gross) effects of drinking and the mature, respectful pact the students made with their teacher, Mr. Schue.

Also, you completely overdid the drama here. I was wondering if this was edging on satire, but, alas, it was not. You're a parent. Standing up to your kids isn't scary, it's your job. Stop worrying about being their friend and start worrying about what a pushover you have become.

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Kimberly Kozar

3:45 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Actually, I found this piece to be somewhat entertaining. I say kudos to any writer who is willing to go out on a limb to express their true feelings/actions with the world!

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Julie Farrell

10:17 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

I agree with you, Kimberly. While I would have used the show to spawn a discussion about the effects of this kind of behavior, I give Renee HUGS props for having the guts to stick to her guns and do what felt right for her and her kids. We're all different parents, the same way that our kids are all different. None of us got a handbook when we gave birth, who is anyone to say that someone else is wrong?!

Tony Cesare

2:59 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Wow, the anonymous literary critics are particularly cranky today.

My kids are much younger but I still feel bad having to turn off cartoon network when the content goes from appropriate to not so much. Anyone who actually has kids knows one of the hardest words is 'no'.

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Julia C

3:28 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

I do have kids. It's a pretty easy word. One syllable, actually. If you feel guilty about telling them not to do something, they'll know that, and it tells them that you have a reason to feel guilty. It tells them that what you did was wrong. So long as you are certain your decision is the right one, saying 'no' is really very simple, and in the long run, they will respect you all the more for it.

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Kimberly Kozar

3:43 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Maybe it's the weather - teasing us with 50 degrees and now more of this white stuff!

I agree, Tony. I had to go to a training class to learn the word NO.

Ironically, of all the episodes, the one described here was the first I've seen - and I watched it with my daughter and niece. I was "warned" throughout the show that they are normally not this controversial (that was the exact word my 12 year-old used). They were the ones squirming and truth be known, I was amused and captivated not so much by the content (I've seen much worse in my teen years - live and up close) - but rather, observing their reaction. We stuck it out and as my daughter and I were in the car driving home moments later (where most of our talks happen these days), it was a great springboard for conversation about choices, peer pressure and the underlying moral. I wouldn't tell the network "bring it on", as hopefully, they are not going to continue in this direction because their ratings will drop (at least for the younger and family viewing audience). However, the reality is, this stuff happens. No community is immune to the negative affects of poor judgement by their youth. While a sensitive subject, it's better to just face this head on - maybe not Rambo style - but definitely accept the reality and realize many of the stupid things we do when we're young really do make for good comedic material (and it breeds wisdom, if processed in a healthy way)!

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Julie Farrell

10:21 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

Well said, again....and no is difficult to learn. We all want our kids to be happy and none of us wants to make them sad, upset, or angry. On that same note, we all know it's our job to sometimes do that in order for them to understand the concept of boundaries and that there are consequences for negative actions. It's one of the most difficult parts of parenting, finding the balance between showing them guidance/teaching them and being in control. As history has proven, dictatorships rarely work out well in the end.

Joe Thompson

4:02 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

The problem seems to be that somewhere along the way, people got the idea that Glee was a "kid's show" which is very far from the truth. Not sure how old your kids are, but they're probably much younger than the demographic the show is targeted towards.

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Steve G.

5:30 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Yep -- the show is rated PG-14.

Renee, don't you find that certain episodes of Seinfeld also make for some rather awkward viewing with the whole family? "Mom, what's shrinkage?" "What does it mean to be master of my domain?" You know -- that kind of stuff.

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Julie Farrell

10:23 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

Exactly! The show is geared toward high school-aged kids, which unfortunately means that many junior high-aged kids (and even younger) are going to want to be a part of it. Wanting to be more grown up than they are is just a part of being a kid. It's our job to determine to what degree that's acceptable.

Dan F.

5:27 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Ms. Goughs angst was understandable. It's pretty amusing and the songs are pretty good but it's not High School Musical it's TV made for ratings. Fair warning to parents who have trouble saying No, don't even think about the show about cheerleaders called Hellcats. Dads, check it out so you know. Just to be safe.

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Julie Farrell

10:24 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

Good point, Dan. My daughters are both cheerleaders and were ecstatic to watch it when they saw the previews. Though it wasn't as bad as I expected, it's definitely an age-appropriate show. I'm sure that's why it's on the CW, right after One Tree Hill.

Kelly H

5:40 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

Perhaps Name and pesco are unfamiliar with feature and opinion writing, in which story-telling certainly has a place. While the author not only made a very clear connection between her story and her purpose, she was also confident enough to claim it as her own, attaching her full name to it. I believe that's what Patch requires (or am I mistaken?). I very much wish that those who join into Patch conversations would keep in mind that they are communicating with their neighbors, who are to be respected even when they hold different opinions.

To Renee: I have no doubt that "no" can be difficult at times, especially when everyone else seems to be saying "yes." It doesn't matter how old we are or how many kids we have, being the "bad guy" is something we all would rather avoid, even when we know it's what's right!

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Julie Farrell

10:25 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

X 3 with Susan and Karen on this one.

Rose Mary Hose

5:46 pm on Saturday, March 5, 2011

I think Glee does a fairly good job of introducing topics (teen pregnancy, abstinence, homophobia, bullying and last week teenage alcohol abuse) that affect teens. My daughter is a long way off from discussing these topics (19 mo.). But I'd like to think I'd do what my mother did, watch it with me and tell me what behavior (drinking and stripping in this episode) was inappropriate. I do think kids need to know what is out there and what we consider wrong behaviors, preferably before they are confronted with the choice to participate in them. I'll never forget my mother taking me to see my first rated R movie, Schiendler's List, it was an incredible opportunity to talk about making a real difference in others lives. I hope conversations I have with my daughter will inform her moral decision making someday. In the mean time I'll take comfort in the fact that Elmo isn't likely to start binge drinking anytime soon.
Renee, Julia, and Kimberly good luck with your tweens and teens.

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Julie Farrell

10:29 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

I have a similar standpoint on this issue, Rose Mary. Though my sister and I always seemed a bit more worldly-wise than our peers, we were generally also a bit more responsible than most (save for a year or two in high school) and I believe it's because my mother did the same things with us. She didn't shelter us from the things we'd experience in the real world, rather she talked about it with us (or tried to anyway, even if it was more of a lecture we still listened). I know that had a great effect on some of our choices. For example, the first time I was offered marijuana at a party, I heard my mother's voice in the back of my head. I was shaking (nervous) and knew it was wrong. Everything felt funny, so I turned it down. It wasn't a big deal to do so, either, and I believe that's because my mother had "open discussions" about the things we saw on tv and such at a rather young age. I try to do the same with my daughters and now that they're older, I'm sure they're going to begin facing some of these situations as well.

Paige Nichole

12:07 am on Sunday, March 6, 2011

I find it interesting when parents complain that Glee is inappropriate for their children. First off, the show is rated TV-14 which clearly suggests that it is not a show for young children. I am quite confused when parents and critics say that Glee "pushes the boundaries." What boundaries? The show is meant for people over the age of fourteen. Also, a reality check is needed for any parent who thinks that their kid will never be exposed to these sort of things. Sheltering your kids from what could happen in real life does not help them by any means.

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Renee Gough

9:18 am on Sunday, March 6, 2011

I'd like to apologize to the Wheaton community for not responding individually to each of your comments. Due to an error on my behalf I have only just seen them collectively now. I am very grateful to all of you who took the time to write your comments. Praise or not, it's always exciting to get a picture of a community by the flurry of opinions that a story generates. Thank you for reading The Mediocre Mom! Renee Gough

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Kristin McCann

10:15 am on Sunday, March 6, 2011

Renee - The toughest part for me about Glee is that I WISH it was a kid-friendly show. I would love to sit and watch it with my girls and sing and dance and all that. I've watched it since the beginning and figured out pretty quickly it would be for an older crowd. (My girls are 9 and 7)

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Renee Gough

8:59 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

Kristin, you hit the nail on the head! We need a G-rated Glee! :))Renee

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BobS

9:17 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

[soapbox on/] TV continues to push vulgarity and sex into material aimed at younger and younger kids. Even at PG-14, a drunken lap dance - really? That's OK?

There is a school of thought that because "it's happening out there in the real world" it's OK to expose your kids to it. I disagree with that, and submit that it is the responsibility of the parent to show - by changing the channel or better yet, turning off the tube - how they feel about that type of show for that age viewer. Certainly you can explain why, but it's important that your kids know what you feel is right and what is wrong, and that "walking away", "shutting it out", "avoiding the situation" are all valid responses to something like that "in the real world". Everyone knows that our kids are going to be exposed to things as they get older. No matter what they decide to do, at least they will know what is right and what is wrong - that there are standards of behavior that their parents hold for them.

Somewhat related to the topic at hand, I'd like to direct folks to a movie review web site http://www.kids-in-mind.com/
I have no connection to the site, but it's a great resource for movie reviews with detailed content explanations. It won't tell you whether the movie is good or awful, but it will dispassionately relay information about the level of violence, gore, sex, and language. Once you calibrate it to your own parent-o-meter with movies you know - it's really useful.

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Kimberly Kozar

9:46 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

BobS,

Thank you for your comment - I checked out the website and the rating system if very thorough but does not include television shows (as you said, it's a movie review site). Does anyone have a good resource for this type of review for TV shows (less opinionated, more factual regarding content)? We have come a long way from Leave it to Beaver and in my opinion, to hand over the remote to our kids is like handing over the keys to the car before teaching them how to drive.

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Julie Farrell

10:37 am on Monday, March 7, 2011

Bob, it's not that that behavior is "ok", per se....it's that it's the kind of behavior that kids (yes, at that age and even younger) are experimenting with. This is the kind of thing that kids at 14 should be aware of as they will inevitably be faced with things like this as they careen through their high school careers. If they're sheltered from it on tv and at home, how will they know how to handle it when they're faced with that situation in real life? The answer is that they won't, and that's what contributes to bad decisions made by hormone-riddled angsty teenagers. Think about it: a fourteen year old kid isn't allowed to watch things like that, or talk about them. When he/she is 15 and goes to a party, someone offers him or her alcohol. He/she sees everyone around them drinking and figures it's probably ok, I mean EVERYONE at the party can't be wrong, right?! This is not logical, adult critical thinking here. This is underdeveloped teenaged processing, by many kids who feel singled-out and want to belong somewhere. Many of them even feel empty and think that surrounding themselves with their peers will stop that, which as we adults know, isn't always the case.

If the parents turn it off before the kids are exposed to anything, how're the kids going to know what's on it? Not to mention, that's the kind of thing that causes kids to just not tell their parents when they DO make mistakes like that. What kid wants to disappoint his or her parents?!

Renee Gough

7:42 am on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

How fantastic to have so many parents take the time to write about something they feel passionately about. There are so many great points of view here! Thank you for sharing!

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Tracey M

9:46 am on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Renee, I don't think your a Mediocre Mom by any means. Standing up for your beliefs is a good thing.... If your kid are under the age of 13 I wouldn't let them watch either. Over that age you need to maybe choke it down and watch it with them and then maybe have a discussion as it goes along. Yep, hard I know but .....
Although I really didn't feel bad telling my daughter NO! Mean mom that I am!
yes, she tried to find ways around me it's typical, but you need to stick to your guns girl!
When she would say I HATE YOU my retort was GOOD I'm doing my job!
I know she really didn't... she was just upset. Especially when I made her stick to a curfew I was NOT a popular person! However, we did have talks about not so good subjects and I would like to think it made her think twice at last sometimes..... it's basically the best anyone can do.
You have to remember you can't make decisions for them you can only lend guidance and hope they don't get into anything massive. However, EVERYONE has to make their own mistakes! it's part of life unfortunately!
Anyway, I do think because I was that way she turned out to be very well rounded person and someone I am very proud of. In fact I almost think she is more of a Mommy than I am now! lol.

As TV gets further and further away from the Gilligan's Island and Brady Bunch years I can say it gets a bit scary, but with the right guidance it doesn't have to be horrible. Kudos for your bravery! Keep them children for just a bit longer...

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Alyssa

11:10 pm on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

As a 24 year old, still among the "not quite adult/parent" crowd, I want to weigh in on the subject.
I have been a Glee fan from the very first episode. In fact, I have been a Ryan Murphy fan for even longer. If any are familiar with his work, you know what type of show he is known for. That being said, the most recent episodes of Glee haven't sat well with me. I understand the importance of exposing young adults to the reality of life, and that this show is trying to do that. I don't understand why, aside from a well-hidden moral, the show is inadvertently glorifying these subjects.
Tell me, are there homosexual issues on the show? Yes. We know who the character is, we know his story, we know his relationships with friends and family. Have we seen vulgar and/or inappropriate scenes involving this character? No. Does that expose us to the homosexuality issue any less? No.
So why do we have to see well-liked characters stripping down to almost nothing to learn about drinking? Does it teach us anything special? No. There isn't a point to some of the things that are shown and I truly do feel that they are purely for ratings.
Those that harp on the fact that the end of the episode showed us the "horrors of drinking," obviously turned a blind eye to the fact that the entire glee club was COMMENDED for their performance. Did the kids learn a lesson, really? No. They found out that if they hide behind their songs and costumes, they can get away with anything.
Just my 2 cents..

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Renee Gough

7:43 am on Wednesday, March 9, 2011

I like your 2 cents Alyssa! You are wise beyond your years...Renee Gough

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William Vollrath

10:09 am on Wednesday, March 9, 2011

All TV decisions are ultimately driven by ratings. Expect to see Glee sexed up if that gets more viewers. Also, the network prefers 15 yr. old viewers to 10 yr. olds and 20 yr. olds to 15 yr. olds.

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Kathy

9:45 pm on Sunday, March 27, 2011

Hi -- Great article and interesting comments being posted here! I have an almost 11 yr old daughter and this is a very timely conversation for me. Some of her friends are allowed to watch whatever they want -- Glee, etc. and others have parents that won't let them watch PG or PG-13 movies. I think every parent has to make their decisions based on the maturity of their child and what they are encountering in school/with friends. I have talked with our daughter about certain situations, but there are others that I know she wouldn't understand, so I will handle them as I see appropriate. It's true that kids are growing up way faster than "we" did and they unfortunately encounter some things at an earlier age. However, I don't think we need to push everything at them at too young an age. As parents we still reserve the right to say "hmmm, not yet". I read in Kimberly's posting where she was looking for a website that reviews more than movies. One website I have checked for years is Common Sense Media -- http://www.commonsensemedia.org/. They rate everything from books, video games, movies, music to tv shows for all ages (infant to teen).

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Renee Gough

6:29 pm on Monday, April 18, 2011

Great information. Thanks Kathy!

Susan

1:21 am on Monday, March 28, 2011

“Courage is standing up in a room full of people who are doing something wrong and doing what is right.”
This is like all the citizens who fought Navistar's diesel engine testing that knew it was WRONG for Lisle and stood up !!!

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Renee Gough

6:30 pm on Monday, April 18, 2011

Courageous behavior is exciting isn't it?

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Susan Karppala

11:11 am on Thursday, May 5, 2011

From a mom's perspective the writing couldn't have been more perfect. Thanks so much. I relate to this on so many levels, including the matching of the socks!!!! What a delightful piece. It's like you crawled into my psyche.

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Renee Gough

12:12 pm on Thursday, May 5, 2011

Thanks Susan! Matching socks may be my least favorite job on earth. And writing this column my most favorite!

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